The Real Story
As third-party reproduction turns eggs, sperm, and wombs into parts of a transnational fertility industry, Taiwan must confront whose bodies are used, whose voices are absent, and how children’s right to know their origins should be protected.
The Real Story, Season 6, Episode 33The Real Story【S6EP33】
不用性行為也能生孩子的年代來臨，當精子、卵子，甚至子宮，都可以由伴侶以外的第三人提供，將帶來什麼改變與挑戰？《報導者》團隊從2022年底開始，從捐卵、代孕與孩子身世告知三面向進行人工生殖報導，跨國追查出一條橫跨台灣、中國、美國的產業鏈，在今年集結成《生命訂製時代：捐卵、代孕、身世告知，全球人工生殖產業鏈下的臺灣》出版。
An age is arriving in which children can be born without sexual intercourse. When sperm, eggs, and even the uterus can all be provided by someone other than the partners themselves, what changes and challenges will follow? Beginning in late 2022, The Reporter team pursued a series on assisted reproduction through three lines of inquiry: egg donation, surrogacy, and telling children the truth about their origins. Their cross-border investigation traced an industrial chain stretching across Taiwan, China, and the United States, and this year the reporting has been gathered into the book The Age of Life by Design: Egg Donation, Surrogacy, Origins Disclosure, and Taiwan under the Global Assisted-Reproduction Industry Chain.
這場新書座談，記者從Dcard上發現赴美捐卵貼文談起，走進第三方生殖說明會、在捐卵群組臥底的幕後，而訪談各行各業的求子家庭真實故事，則看見金錢、血緣、求子渴望與人性難題如何交織。
At this book talk, the reporters began with how posts on Dcard about going to the United States to donate eggs first caught their attention, then described what lay behind the reporting: entering information sessions on third-party reproduction, and going undercover in egg-donation groups. Through interviews with families from every walk of life seeking children, they also saw how money, blood ties, the longing for a child, and the dilemmas of human nature become entangled.
As Taiwan enters the process of amending its Assisted Reproduction Act, public discussion cannot stop at support or opposition. It must also ask: whose bodies are being used? Whose voices have long been absent? And how should a child’s right to know their origins be written into the system? This episode presents highlights from the June 24 book-sharing event. Join us as we try to understand, at a moment when life is being rearranged by market and law, the local research Taiwan lacks and the conversations it still needs to have.
當進入《人工生殖法》修法，公共討論不能只停在支持或反對，還需思辨誰的身體被使用？誰的聲音長期缺席？孩子的身世知情權又該如何被放進制度？這集，是6月24日新書分享會精華內容，跟我們一起理解生命被市場與法律重新安排時，台灣社會缺少的本土研究，以及需要補上的討論。
Highlights of this episode: 02:46 Having children without sexual intercourse: what has third-party reproduction changed? 12:36 How did Dcard posts about egg donation become the starting point for an investigation? 17:34 High-end information sessions, and egg-donor girls available for selection on a tablet. 23:20 From attempts at surrogacy to adoption: the dilemmas and choices of families longing for children. 27:15 The most neglected “protagonist” in the reproductive industry chain is the child. 33:46 Reader question: returning to the amendment of the Assisted Reproduction Act, how do the reporters see it? How can we hold a discussion of real quality?
本集重點： 02:46 不用性行為也能生孩子，第三方生殖改變了什麼？ 12:36 Dcard的捐卵分享文，怎麼成為調查起點？ 17:34 高級說明會與平板裡任君挑選的捐卵女孩 23:20 從代孕嘗試到收養，求子家庭的糾結與選擇 27:15 生孕產業鏈中最被忽略的「主角」，是孩子 33:46 讀者提問：回到《人工生殖法》修法，記者怎麼看？我們如何有品質地討論？
Guests: The Reporter senior reporter Cao Funian, reporter Lan Wanzhen, contributing reporter Chen Delun, and former reporter Hong Qinxuan. Production team: Fang Delin, Chen Yiquan, and Chen Sihua.（來賓｜《報導者》資深記者曹馥年、記者藍婉甄、特約記者陳德倫、前記者洪琴宣；製作團隊｜方德琳、陳奕銓、陳思樺）
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獨立的精神，是自由思想的條件。獨立的媒體，才能守護公共領域，讓自由的討論和真相浮現。
In a difficult media environment, The Reporter remains committed to investigative and in-depth reporting in the public sphere through a nonprofit model. We operate with support from reader sponsorship, do not rely on commercial advertising placements, and, on the basis of independence and autonomy, move through the major public issues of our time.
在艱困的媒體環境，《報導者》堅持以非營利組織的模式投入公共領域的調查與深度報導。我們透過讀者的贊助支持來營運，不仰賴商業廣告置入，在獨立自主的前提下，穿梭在各項重要公共議題中。
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今年是《報導者》成立十週年，請支持我們持續追蹤國內外新聞事件的真相，度過下一個十年的挑戰。